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Gilbert "the Hunter" de Venables

Gilbert "the Hunter" de Venables

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  • Name Gilbert de Venables 
    Nickname the Hunter 
    Birth 1020  Venables, Andelys, l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, République française Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Death 1086 
    Initiatory (LDS) 12 May 2009  SEATT Find all individuals with events at this location 
    FamilySearch ID L56H-TJ3 
    Person ID I172229  mytree
    Last Modified 25 Feb 2024 

    Father Eudes de Blois, II count of Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Beauvais and Tours,   b. 983   d. 15 Nov 1037, Bar-le-Duc, Bar-le-Duc, la Meuse, Lorraine, République française Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 54 years) 
    Mother Ermengarde de Auvergne,   b. Abt 987, Auvergny, d'Evreux, l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, République française Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 10 Mar 1040, Auvergny, d'Evreux, l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, République française Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 53 years) 
    Marriage Abt 1008  Auvergny, d'Evreux, l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, République française Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F6866  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Constance de Arles,   b. 1050, Venables, Andelys, l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, République française Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage Abt 1079  Venables, Andelys, l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, République française Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    +1. Lord William de Venables,   b. 1090, Venables, Andelys, l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, République française Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1150, Venables, Andelys, l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, République française Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 60 years)
    Family ID F42987  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 21 Nov 2024 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 1020 - Venables, Andelys, l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, République française Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - Abt 1079 - Venables, Andelys, l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, République française Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsInitiatory (LDS) - 12 May 2009 - SEATT Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Gilbert de Venables, also referred to as Venator, Veneur, Hunter, was fr o m Venables, in the modern Department of Eure, near Rouen and Evreux i n Hi gh Normandy. The Barony of Le Veneurs was so named because they wer e here ditary huntsmen to the Dukes of Normandy .

      On the death of Odo / Gudo,/ Gules or Theobald III, Count of Blois and C h artres, his eldest son Theobald / Stephen Henry inherited the title an d l ands. Gilbert had little hope of getting anything. At this time, afte r th e death of Mauger, the fief of Venables had no lord. Gilbert’s uncl e (? ) Roger of Blois, Bishop of Beauvais, whose chapter owned the platea u o f Madrie, gave Venables to Gilbert .

      Gilbert, then aged about twenty, left Blois and followed the Loire Vall e y until it reached Chartres, of which his father was count, and the Eu r e Valley. Perhaps he was disappointed on reaching Venables, to find th a t his fief only comprised of the village, whilst the remaining lands st il l belonged to the chapter of Beauvais .

      Evidence of his life may be seen in La Motelle .

      Below the level ground of church and the village hall of Venables lie s a n impressive mound, overlooking the river cliffs of the Seine. Thoug h the re is no obvious moat and a section has been excavated from it give s ever y appearance of being a castle motte, similar to those in England , and th e possible home of the lord of Venables and therefore of Gilbert .

      ‘The whole of the centre of the village (probably from the road to the g u lly which is in the wood and from the church to the village hall) hold s t he remains which are an important part of the region’s history and th at o f the genesis of the present day village, and therefore should be pr otect ed, studied and brought to light. The motte called La Motelle was t he mai n element of the fortress, probably built in the eleventh century . Enclos ed by a moat, these fortifications included a more defensive ele ment: th e motte. The other element was the bailey in which most of the a ctivity w as centred (servants’ quarters, stores, etc). In Venables the r elativel y well preserved motte (with moats filled in and south-west sid e dug up) , because of its small size, seems only to have had a watch tow er, probab ly made of wood. The masonry which was discovered by the excav ation at th e beginning of this century could be part of a later modifica tion (constr uction of a stone donjon [keep] for example) or of an earlie r constructio n (making the motte by surrounding a building with earth) . The bailey goe s from the motte to the road; it is difficult to give th e exact dimension s because of the disappearance of the moat. However, i t is possible tha t the well, which can be seen there, is Medieval and wa s in the bailey. T he defensive system was strengthened by a double moat , perhaps borderin g a ravelin or a narrow courtyard to the north-west (t owards the wood). T he area of the castle seems to have been saved from c onstruction, excep t on the south-west side where the village hall stand s and towards the ro ad by the Presbytery (which must have replaced earli er buildings). It i s also possible that Venables was protected by a vill age wall.’

      Source: From a report by M. Romain Verlut of CARMEN (Archaeological Rese a rch Centre of East Normandy), quoted in Oger page 31 7

      Gilbert’s serfs, bound to the soil, had neither civil nor financial free d om. They belonged to Gilbert whose land they cultivated and to whom th e y paid rent for the patch of land they cultivated around their hovel .

      The continued frontier wars influenced life around the fiefdom of Venabl e s, which returned on the death of Robert II the Devil, then the Magnifi ce nt, Duke of Normandy from 1027-1035. Despite being enthroned by the Ar chb ishop of Rouen the cousins of William the Bastard, then aged seven, s eize d power, backed by the great lords.
      Henry I of France invaded the duchy and besieged Evreux. Though the to w n resisted Henry ransacked the countryside. By the time he was twenty W il liam had been ruling over a duchy ravaged by continuous war. In 1047 G u y de Brionne, his cousin and friend, led a revolt which cause Willia m t o flee to Falaise and then to the court of Henry I of France. In Marc h, a t the battle of Val-les-Dunes, William was victorious and the ‘bloo d of t he felons turned the river Orne red as far as Caen’ .

      Geoffrey Martel, Count of Anjou, invaded the Vexin region and the Sein e V alley of Normandy with a coalition of Gascons, Burgundians, Auvergant s, A ngevins and the royal army, taking Mantes and Evreux. In 1054, the w hol e of France had banded against the Normans. After a drunken orgy, th e Nor mans fell on their opponents without mercy .

      Gilbert of Venables probably therefore spent more time waging war on t h e borders of Normandy than looking after his modest domain. Then when t h e Duke called for him, he joined the army at Varaville.

      From 1057, William’s thoughts had been on England, whose throne he alleg e d to have a right being the cousin of Ethelred II. After the death of E dw ard the Confessor on 5 January 1066, Harold foreswore on his oath to W ill iam, his son-in-law. Determined to take the throne promised to him Wi llia m called on the regulars and retainers of the Norman nobility to hi s cam p at Varaville, with the promise of castles, farms, herds and eve n youn g Saxon girls.

      At the beginning of August 25 000 men and 4 000 knights were ready to em b ark at Dives-sur-Mer, in 3 000 boats including 680 large sailing boats.

      Finally, on 27 September 1066 the fleet set sail towards England to la n d in Pevensey Bay to meet and defeat, on 14 October 1066, Harold of Wes se x on Senlac Hill. On that autumn day ‘they walked on mutilated corpses , t hey stepped in streams of blood in which the fighters slipped and fel l. ’

      After Duke William was crowned King of England on 25 December 1066 he sh a red with his captains, amongst who was Gilbert de Venables, his conques t . William did all he could to keep his Norman lords in England by shari n g the land in to 62 500 fiefs of 120 acres. The Domesday Book of 1087 s ho wed that Gilbert of Venables owned some important fiefs in Cheshire.

      Engraved on the west nave wall of Dives church are 521 names of those al l eged to have sailed with William. Oger records that 'there were about t we nty five names of lords whose fief were within a radius of twenty fiv e ki lometres around Venables. This shows just the high percentage of loc al pe ople who took part in the English conquest: six lords of Toeni, [d e Tosny ] two lords of La Mare and of course Gilbert (of Venables). Mos t of the m settled in Great Britain.' (Oger 1977, p.344) They were:

      Berenger de Toeni, Guillaume de Toeni, Ilbert de Toeni, Iuhel de Toeni , R aoul de Toeni and Robert de Toeni
      Hugue de la Mare (I can identify only one La Mare on the Dives wall phot o graph).
      The prosopographical1 work of Katherine SB Keats-Rohan, on 'Domesday Peo p le', records that Gislebert De Venables was:

      'Norman, Domesday tenant of Earl Hugh. From Venables, Eure, canton of Ga i llon. A Malger de Venables attested a confirmation for Saint-Ouen of Ro ue n by Roger de Clères circa 1050/66 (Fauroux, 191 2) A second Gilbert a tte sted a charter of Warin de Vernon (Chester Charters, 160)' and list s a fu rther 62 Domesday names identified as having their origins in th e departm ent of Eure. Of these thirteen are from a close proximity to Ve nables plu s two from nearby Vernon.